Waking Jonah

Pastor Rodney Shaw from New Life Church in Austin, TX discusses the real problem with America… spiritual bankruptcy, as well as the real solution for America… the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Part 4 of a 7-Part series]

Ministry: New Life Church of Austin, TX
Full Podcast: A Real Message for a Real World
Date: 1/23/11
Speaker: Rodney Shaw
Notes: The problem with America is our morality; The issue of life is a great example: those who oppose abortion sometimes are the loudest advocates for war… and those who are the loudest advocates against war are advocates for abortion, so it’s just pick whose life you want to take… “let’s go take adult lives, or let’s take kid lives”; Life is precious in whatever form you find it, and a Christian should avoid all possibilities that they would be put in the circumstance to have to take another life; The real problem with America is not that we took prayer out of schools–If we had godly judges, we wouldn’t have taken prayer out of schools… if we had praying teachers and administrators, we wouldn’t have taken prayer out of schools… if we had praying parents, we wouldn’t have taken prayer out of schools… if we had a praying electorate, we would not keep voting in people who don’t pray; Our legislators call in chaplains to open their sessions with prayer, and then they don’t let them pray in the name of Jesus; The real problem with America is spiritual bankruptcy; America’s problem is not a political problem; The early church turned their world upside down and they had no political power; The early church had a transforming influence on the world so that in a matter of a few centuries the whole known world was Christianized, but they couldn’t vote against the morality of Rome; They preached the gospel, and they preached miracles and signs following; They didn’t have a social gospel or a club gospel, or something that was politically correct or socially palpable… they preached a message of Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ crucified; They preached a message that when people heard it and they believed it their lives were transformed, and things happened in people’s hearts–not because of legislation–but because of the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ

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Pastor Rodney Shaw from New Life Church in Austin, TX discusses the problem with looking to legislation for our morality…

[Part 3 of a 7-Part series]

Ministry: New Life Church of Austin, TX
Full Podcast: A Real Message for a Real World
Date: 1/23/11
Speaker: Rodney Shaw
Notes: A Christian’s final victories or defeats are not political victories or defeats; Legislating morality for the immoral is not a sustainable model; Telling sinners not to sin has never worked; Romans 7; The law provides us a way, but it provides us no power to go in the way; Paul tells us that the wisdom of God is foolishness to the ungodly; If we look to legislation for our morality, we could be in great trouble someday because legislation is passed by a group of politicians; The big question in a pluralistic society is… whose morality do you want to pass as law?; In a pluralistic society, we can’t depend on legislation as we did even 2-3 generations ago; That does not minimize our responsibility to do what we need to do… it does not minimize our attempts at every level and every opportunity to stop people from murdering other people, and to stop immorality; The problem with America is not that we don’t have enough laws, but that we have lost our moral compass

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Continuing the series on the true beliefs of the founding fathers, this time with Tom Horn interviewing Chris Pinto on the Raiders News Network…

[Part 33 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Raiders News Network
Full Podcast: Documentary filmmaker Chris Pinto Discusses “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers”
Date: 11/4/10
Host: Tom Horn
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: “Patriotic Christianity” – A modernized version of the Jewish zealot movement 2,000 years ago in the days of Jesus and the apostles… they believed they needed to take up arms and overthrow the pagan Roman empire that was occupying ancient Israel; We have Christian zealots in America today that look at the founding fathers because they think they were Christians, and that God gave approval to their so-called “Christian” revolution… they believe that we as Christians should follow their example; Glenn Beck and David Barton are presenting a form of “patriotic Christianity” and Christians all over the country are being swept up in this movement; It’s an opportunity for the universalist movement to gather up all the different religions of faith under the banner of some kind of quasi-Christian movement; It promotes the one-world religion concept that really began with the founding fathers–that’s what the founders wanted… they didn’t want to promote Christianity; George Washington wanted a country where all religions could have equal footing–that’s what they were fighting for… they weren’t fighting for Christianity; Christianity was the dominant belief of most Americans at that time… the founders were guilty of a betrayal during the revolutionary era; They hijacked the country and set forth a secular Constitution with a universalist view of God that was not at all representative of the American people; Christians for the last 200 years have been fighting against this in this country

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Derek Gilbert from A View From the Bunker…

[Part 32 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: The key message of the documentary, “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers“; As believers, Jesus says to us… “my kingdom is not of this world”; The Bible says “here we have no continuing city, but we look for one to come”; We’re looking for a city whose maker and whose builder is God, not man; As Christians, we are strangers and pilgrims upon the earth during our time here–our cause, our fight, is for the defense of the gospel of Jesus Christ; People are compromising the gospel so they can defend the founding fathers and the principles of the American Revolution, when the founders were antichrists; The spirit of Antichrist is going to compel you to compromise the gospel so you can achieve that more perfect worldly union that the devil wants mankind to have… but that’s not what Jesus came into the world to do; The only peace that mankind can know is through faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ–He is our peace, He’s our salvation, our hope; The philosophies and the wisdom of men ultimately come to nothing; The Bible warns “cursed is the man who trusts in man”–we don’t need to trust in the founding fathers of America… we need to put our trust as Christians in the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Word of God; Ultimately we need to compare this information–like everything else–against the plumb line, which is the gospel of Jesus Christ

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Derek Gilbert from A View From the Bunker…

[Part 30 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: There are a lot of mysteries through the founding era; The documentary “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers“; Quote from Charles Thomson, the Congressional Secretary, who was said to be the man the most familiar with the Revolution and the heroes of the revolution; Thomson had written a detailed history of all the events that took place… he was encouraged to publish it, but instead destroyed it because he didn’t want to “undeceive future generations”; So many of the founders were a part of different secret groups… they were not only plotting against England, but they were also plotting against Christianity in America; Quote from Congress in the 1880′s… “If the American people had suspected that the Revolution was hostile to Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle”; The purpose of the Revolution was to push Christianity and the Bible out the door… the problem is that the American people didn’t know it–they didn’t realize what the founders were trying to do; The founders were deceivers, and they put forth documents that really did not represent the interests of the American people at that time… because a vast majority of the people in the country were Bible-believing Christians

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Derek Gilbert from A View From the Bunker…

[Part 29 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: George Washington had 3 pastors… Bishop William White, who was his pastor on and off for over 25 years, said that even though he was often in Washington’s company, he never heard anything from him that would suggest he was a believer in the Christian revelation; Reverend James Abercrombie said openly that Washington was a Deist; Washington refused to take communion in church; Bishop White wrote that he never saw Washington kneeling in prayer in church; All the images we see of Washington kneeling reverentially and crying out to God is not really an accurate picture; Dr. Ashbel Green (the Congressional Chaplain for 8 years while Washington served as president) had lunch with Washington on a regular basis, and he said he knew it to be the case that while Washington had respect for the Christian religion, he simply did not believe in the divine origin of the Bible or the Jewish-Christian revelation–he didn’t believe the gospel… that was very typical of the revolutionaries; Part of the influence of the Enlightenment comes from Jean Jacques Rousseau, who believed that Christians were too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good to the State; Rousseau thought there should be a national religion that would unite a country, but that it shouldn’t be Christianity–that is what the influence of the founders has been; That is what the religion of America has become… sort of this national idea

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Continuing the series on the true beliefs of the founding fathers… this time with Derek Gilbert interviewing Chris Pinto on Derek’s radio show, A View from the Bunker.

[Part 26 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: The whole argument of the founding fathers as alleged Christians is being used by people like Glenn Beck and David Barton to energize Christians and entangle them in this political right-wing agenda… to politicize Christianity in our American system and “take America back” to the founding fathers; The problem is… the founding fathers–by biblical definition–were antichrists; The Bible says “who is antichrist but he that denies the Father and the Son”–this is something you can prove about most of the chief founders; The founders were really deceiving the country because a lot of their views were not known by the greater body of the population; There was a movement during the Civil War era where Christians were trying to get the Constitution re-written to include references to God, and specifically references to the Lord Jesus Christ; People have been arguing against what the founders did since the Revolution–for the last 200 years; The revolutionaries were not Christian heroes–they were antichrists who were trying to destroy Christianity in our country… that’s the shocking revelation

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 25 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Exposing the Idolatrous Myth of the “Faith” of The Founding Fathers
Date: 10/11/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: Educating people is the key… the mainstream churches are welcoming people like David Barton with open arms–that’s what most Christians in America want to hear… they want to hear that the founders were Christians; The fact that these men were deceivers and antichrists–according to the Bible–is a very disturbing reality; It’s important that we as Christians present a biblical worldview concerning these things; How are the founders judged by the Word of God?… they aren’t going to be called “deists” or “agnostics”… they would be called “antichrists”, because the Bible says “who is antichrist but he that denies the Father and the Son?”–that’s what these men were; David Barton’s explanation of Thomas Jefferson’s religion; Why do we want an antichrist building a church or telling us about God?… we don’t; Christians that learn this information come to a crossroads… they have to choose to willingly accept the myth that makes them feel good, or accept the way of the cross and the message of Christ of the Bible… that’s the choice; The Bible says that “in the last days men would not hear sound doctrine, but would turn away their ears from the truth and would be turned unto fables”; This idea (myth) of the United States being founded as a Christian nation is the most deadly fable that we have in the church here in America, and it becomes an idol

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 24 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Exposing the Idolatrous Myth of the “Faith” of The Founding Fathers
Date: 10/11/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: David Barton is not just ignorant of what he’s doing… there’s no real excuse we can make for him that he’s just totally blind to what’s happening; Most people haven’t read the letters and the writings of the founders… David Barton claims that he has read more of the founders’ writings than anyone else; How he could read the letters of these men and not discover their anti-Christian venom is beyond comprehension; How could he overlook that John Adams–as a Unitarian–did not believe in the Holy Ghost as all?; Barton’s American Heritage series–that talks about America’s godly heritage–has sold over 100,000 copies; Barton is associated with speaking at a lot of dominionist groups and supporting a lot of their activity; What Barton is doing is very much propaganda–it’s not real history… what he’s doing is provably false; He has a political agenda that feeds into dominionism and what the dominionists are saying about “taking over the world for Jesus”

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 23 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Exposing the Idolatrous Myth of the “Faith” of The Founding Fathers
Date: 10/11/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: David Barton’s motives and agendas in facilitating this deception about the founding fathers; “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers” documentary; Even as the Dark Ages was Rome’s so-called “Christian” governance of the world, the end-time dark ages–the kingdom of Antichrist–is going to be a counterfeit quasi-Christian system; The Antichrist is not going to just rule over a nebulous world system–there will be a real strong Christian element to it–that’s where Barton is headed with all of this stuff; He doesn’t just say “I think the founders were Christians”… he uses that information to springboard and energize believers and to get them involved in political process and getting behind political candidates like George W. Bush; The setting up of a theocracy–the Antichrist could use it against us; Most of what Barton is saying is based on lies–he’s whitewashing the truth about the founding fathers–he’s helping to turn messengers of Satan into angels of light; What he’s doing is the biggest threat to the church in America because it’s destroying the true gospel; The true gospel is not that as long as you have faith in something, that you’re justified in the sight of God, which is where all of this goes–that’s what the founders believed, and that’s what Glenn Beck believes; Beck has said that we just need to be a people of faith, but it doesn’t matter what faith it is… the Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians all had faith… but they weren’t justified by the one true God, because they were worshiping idols

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Chris Pinto discusses the philosophies and beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 1 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: “Patriotic Christianity”; The American Revolution and founding of the United States of America; Country founded as a Christian nation?; A Christian revolution for the cause of Jesus Christ?; Ministries will have the Bible in one hand and the American flag in the other, as though they are equally important and that one represents the other; The Puritan Pilgrims who came over on the Mayflower were–for the most part–Bible believing Christians; The early American settlers that founded Harvard University openly professed Jesus Christ and the gospel; The American Revolutionaries (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Paine, John Adams, etc.) and their philosophies/ideas were not at all about promoting the Bible or biblical Christianity; The farthest thing from their mind was establishing a Christian nation…

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[Part 26 of an ongoing series]

Ministry: New Life Church of Austin, TX
Full Podcast: Early American Christianity to the Holiness Movement
Date: 4/21/10
Speaker: Rodney Shaw
Topics: Social and political climate in the United States where people can actually live out the claims of the Reformation; Calvin and the reformers–double standard; American Christianity fundamentally different than anything that came before it; Founding Fathers; Declaration of Independence; American Constitution; Many of the founding fathers were deists–not conservative evangelical Christians–but they founded a republic where people could live out their faith

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[Part 25 of an ongoing series]

Ministry: New Life Church of Austin, TX
Full Podcast: Early American Christianity to the Holiness Movement
Date: 4/21/10
Speaker: Rodney Shaw
Topics: Christianity in America was/is fundamentally different than the forms that preceded it in Europe–it is characteristically democratic; Reversal of what happened in 325 at the Council of Nicaea (merger between the Roman Empire/Constantine and the Church); The state and the church don’t get untangled until you get to the United States of America; This will ultimately get us to the Pentecostal movement; What happened later in the Pentecostal movement was specifically suited for the political and social climate in America

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A big thanks to Dr. Future and Tom Bionic for reading my “preamble” and mentioning WakingJonah.com on the air!

Below is a 1 min., 47 sec. clip from the show, in which Judge Andrew Napolitano talks about our nation’s shameful history of slavery as well as the duty of freedom lovers everywhere to disobey unjust laws.

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Judge Andrew Napolitano

Show: Future Quake
Date: 5/4/09
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Judge Andrew Napolitano
Topics: Napolitano’s new book Dred Scott’s Revenge; the history of slavery in America; government oppression of unpopular minorities; duty to disobey unjust laws

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