Waking Jonah

Dr. Future from the Future Quake Show provides an excellent summary of the Prewrath Rapture perspective…

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Biblical Evidence Of The Church’s Exposure To The AntiChrist’s Persecution, And The Proper Response OF Faith
Date: 2/9/09
Host: Dr. Future
Guest: Charles Cooper
Topics: Key tenets of Prewrath Rapture position; Separation between the wrath of Satan and the wrath of God; 6th seal Rapture in the book of Revelation; Day of the Lord; Antichrist; Authority over saints; Day and hour unknown; Days cut short; Abomination of desolation; Persecution; Signs in the heavens; Redemption; Wrath of God; Trumpets; Bowls

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Chris White from the Frank & Chris Show discusses the identity of Abaddon–or Apollyon–the angel of the abyss in Revelation 9…

[For further study, see the following: Revelation Commentary: Chapter 9]

Show: The Frank & Chris Show
Full Podcast: The Frank and Chris Show – Episode 94
Date: 2/24/10
Host: Chris White

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See Chris White‘s website The 2012 Deception for further study…

[Part 7 of a 7-Part series]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Podcast: The 2012 Deception – What it is and Why it’s Important
Date: 11/24/09
Host: Chris White
Topics: The Antichrist will have to convince the world that Christians must be systematically eliminated in the new utopia; Luke 10:19-20; The Bible talks about this final world system killing Christians by the millions for not worshiping this false christ; How could a world that pretends to be so moral acquiesce to such a brutal genocide?–It won’t be the same world; It’s only Christianity that has been specifically warned about this scenario, and it will serve as yet another reason they will be made the public’s number one enemy; The world will be told that this resistance to the new utopia is because Christians are the “old system” and that they are holding everyone back from the evolution that the world deserves; Matthew 24:23-24

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[Part 6 of a 7-Part series]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Podcast: The 2012 Deception – What it is and Why it’s Important
Date: 11/24/09
Host: Chris White
Topics: The world will believe that an ancient avatar (god) has returned to save them from themselves; He will in some way have destroyed the patsy Antichrist and system; Externalization of the hierarchy; Christ consciousness; This real Antichrist will have many of the institutional churches convinced that he is the same christ as the first century Christ and the reason all the pieces don’t match up precisely is because the Bible was in error; He will promise a brighter future without any war–a New World Order; Matthew 24:4-6; This is a spiritual war, and there is a very powerful entity that wants to extract the worship from every human on earth; For the first time, he will have the infrastructure to control people in such a way to do this; No matter how powerful he is, he and all his demons are still subject to the lowliest Christian, who has been given total power over all dark spirits; “The Spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world”

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run continues his discussion on the 2012 deception by presenting a possible End Times scenario…

[Part 5 of a 7-Part series]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Podcast: The 2012 Deception – What it is and Why it’s Important
Date: 11/24/09
Host: Chris White
Topics: There will be a real Antichrist and a real return of Jesus; But before this there may be a fake Antichrist as well as a fake Christ (the real Antichrist); Possible scenario: A major war will be set up to seem like the same war prophesied at the end of the Bible, to make what comes after that seem like the 1,000 years of peace; In the years before that, there will be an effort to make a man seem like the biblical Antichrist; They will make it look like he’s made a peace agreement with Israel, and the whole nine yards; This system (and man) will essentially be the “fall guy”; They will be destroyed by what will appear to be the return of a Christ-like entity; It will make what comes after that seem like the prophesied utopia; In the years leading up to 2012, everything that can be engineered to go wrong will be going wrong… wars, famine, pestilence, etc.; Then, at a specific time–possibly even December 21, 2012–an event will happen that will activate all the years of indoctrination that we have been subject to; It could be done with a false alien manifestation; The “aliens” will tell us that we just aren’t evolved like them yet, but that we too can be as gods, like them

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Don’t remain silent… there is power in the name of Jesus.

“And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.“

- Acts 4:12 (ESV)

[Part 3 of a 3-Part series]

Show: Preemption Broadcast
Full Podcast: THE GENETICS OF THE INCARNATION….changes everything
Date: 12/20/09
Host: Russ Dizdar
Topics: Don’t be pushed into being silent about Christ, the incarnation, the angels that declared good news of great joy, and God’s favor to mankind; Don’t be silent about the most incredible, supernatural event in human history; We need to be proclaiming the prophecies about Christ’s coming… they blow Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce and all the rest out of the water because they were always accurate and there’s more of them (almost 300 prior to the appearance of “Logos” Christ in human flesh); Don’t be silent, celebrate Christ, talk about Jesus; We tell children not just the story, but the historic reality of God’s visitation in this world; We get to tell them of the birth of God in human flesh, of how it occurred, and take them to the Scriptures and show them; Don’t let the world get in the way of celebrating, announcing, and being a witness for Jesus Christ; There is eternal, saving power in the name of Jesus

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Russ Dizdar discusses the characteristics of Antichrist, such as how he will be supernaturally empowered by Satan himself, but will still have the appearance and likeness of a man.

Show: Preemption Broadcast
Full Podcast: THE RISE OF HOMOSATANAS SESSION 15 – Satan in human skin….satan or nephilim?
Date: 11/25/09
Host: Russ Dizdar
Topics: The Antichrist is not a beast coming up out of the abyss, which occurs later on in the Tribulation period; All that comes out of the abyss are in no way human; Revelation 9 – accurate revelation of these spiritual creatures that attack and destroy; 1 John 2 – The Antichrist will be a physical human man as far as his appearance; He will be a powerful, supernatural man, and will rise in the context of political powers; 2 Thessalonians 2 – Antichrist referred to as “the man of lawlessness”; The Spirit of God calls him “the man”, He never calls him “nephilim”, “spirit”, or “creature” from the abyss; The Spirit of God reveals him as a man, but yet… Satan in human skin; The implications are massive

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In the audio clip below, Derek & Sharon Gilbert discuss the Waking Jonah podcast (thanks guys!) and the Pre-Wrath Rapture model.

Here are some quick-links to the Charles Cooper audio clips I’ve posted on this site to date:

Facing Antichrist: Fight, Flight, Or Faith?
Facing Antichrist: Are We Willing To Die For Jesus?
Charles Cooper: What’s Happening In Israel – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3)
The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option? – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6)
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option? – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6)
The Great Tribulation: Faith Is The Only Option – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4)

Show: P.I.D. Radio
Full Podcast: P.I.D. Radio 12/6/09: Copenhagen, Hopenhagen, or Gropenhagen?
Date: 12/6/09
Hosts: Derek Gilbert, Sharon Gilbert
Topics: Waking Jonah podcast; Cognitive dissonance; Charles Cooper; The Pre-Wrath model for the End Times timeline; Whether it’s Pre-Trib or Pre-Wrath, we have today, and that’s it; If we’re gone on the first day of Daniel’s 70th Week, then we leave something behind; If we’re still here during a portion of it, then we need to prepare now; We need to learn as much as we can and be on our knees as much as we can; What is the proper Christian response? Do we stock up on gold and guns to get through the tribulation portion leading up to the Day of the Lord, or do we not?; Charles Cooper’s position–backed by Scripture–is that we are not supposed to fight the forces of the Antichrist with guns

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Dr. Future and Alex Jones discuss true Christianity and why the entire world is set against it…

[Part 1 of a 2-Part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The Spiritual Nature Of The New World Order And Their Plans, And The Duty For Christians To Confront It
Date: 11/30/09
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Alex Jones
Topics: World Council of Churches; United Nations; International Institute of Integral Human Sciences starting a new religion called the Order of the Transfiguration; Slogan is that they are serving as a “‘mid-wife’ of a New Humanity in a New World Order”; Teaching spirit communications, channeling, conjuring the dead, etc.; Opening portals to contact the spirit world and let them out; The only people they can’t tolerate are those who take the Bible literally; Earth First Battalion; Maurice Strong; They say every religion is good except for true Christianity; “Christians” will be burning real Christians at the stake; True Christianity is the real McCoy, that’s why the entire world is set against it; Revelation 18 – Babylon the great city… where they traffic in the “souls of men”

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[Part 3 of a 3-Part series]

Show: Preemption Broadcast
Full Podcast: ESP VS HSP DISCERNMENT BY EXPERIENCE…….of the Holy Spirit session 5
Date: 11/22/09
Host: Russ Dizdar
Topics: The Spirit of God will always keep unveiling Jesus and will bring clarity about Him; He wants to point you to the Scripture; The Holy Spirit will move you to know the Word–it’s His language; Ephesians 6:17 – “the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God“; Don’t neglect the depth of the Word of God–there is vast insight and illumination that God the Holy Spirit will give you; Let Him fill all of your life with Christ; The more experience you have in the Spirit of God (based on the Word of God), the broader your ability will be to discern what is the Holy Spirit of Truth and what is the spirit of error; Saturate yourself with 1 John, it is the language of the Spirit of God

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

In this clip, Charles Cooper concludes the discussion about faith–not fight or flight–being the only option during the Great Persecution of Antichrist.

To study these topics in greater depth, Cooper’s book “Fight, Flight or Faith: How to Survive the Great Tribulation” is an excellent resource.

[Part 4 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: To endure we must be people of great faith; You’re going to have to trust the sovereign plan of God; What He is allowing to happen is His will, and what He allows to happen to you is His will for your life; How you respond will indicate whether or not you fully appreciate that; Our minds cannot fathom the idea that God could allow us to undergo great persecution; We must endure… faith is the key

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Charles Cooper

Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

[Part 3 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: The Great Tribulation will end just as God has decreed–with the glorious manifestation of Jesus Christ to deliver His people and pour out wrath on the wicked; It initiates the Day of the Lord, during which God will accomplish the salvation of Israel; God sovereignly decreed it, He sovereignly executed it, and it will sovereignly end; What is our response to the sovereignty of God?; We will have two responsibilities in connection with this final period: to endure and to have faith

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

[Part 2 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: Regardless of the nature of the final 7-year period, it is God’s sovereign decreed time; He is allowing it to happen and it will ultimately be a fulfillment of His divine will–we are in good hands; If God sovereignly allows it, it is not going to be contrary to His will; Part of the 70th week is God’s permissive will, part of it is His perfect will; The period of time is sovereignly decreed, sovereignly executed, and sovereignly ended

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In the audio clip below, Ryan Habbena from Signet Ring Ministries lays out some of the basic tenets of the Pre-Wrath Rapture perspective.

Here’s an excerpt from a more detailed explanation of the view (posted on the Prewrath Resource Institute website):

“The timing issue can be settled if the beginning of the Day of the Lord can be determined within the frame work of end-time events. The Prewrath position acknowledges that the eschatological Day of the Lord will be signaled by a sign given in the sun, moon, and stars, a sign distinctly described in the eschatological book of Joel. Jesus indicates in the Olivet Discourse that His Parousia will immediately follow the sign Joel prophesied, which marks the inception of the eschatological Day of the Lord. Jesus also indicated in His revelation to John that Joel’s sign in the sun, moon, and stars will be the sign that announces the day in which His wrath begins, a sign given in the heavenlies that will be displayed at the breaking of the sixth seal.

Therefore, as one compares the six seals to the events outlined in the Olivet Discourse, one quickly sees that the rapture must occur after the Seventieth Week of Daniel begins, after the mid-point of that same Week has begun, and after Satan/Antichrist’s persecution of the Church is cut short (Matt. 24:22) when the sign of the eschatological Day of the Lord and the parousia of Christ is given in the sun, moon, and stars. The exact day or hour when the sixth seal will be broken is not detailed in the Scriptures (Matt. 24:36), but when that happens it will announce to the entire world the inception of the eschatological Day of the Lord.”

Here is a basic comparison of the four primary views on the timing of the Rapture:

Show: Echo Zoe
Full Podcast: Ryan Habbena: Pre-Wrath Rapture – Part 1
Date: 8/9/08
Host: Andy Olson
Guest: Ryan Habbena
Topics: Pre-Wrath view of Rapture–the name is new, but the understanding is not; A lot of early church fathers could have been labeled “Pre-Wrath” because they held to the essence of the view; Distinct from Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, and Post-Trib; The Rapture will become imminent at a certain point in time, it just isn’t imminent yet; Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath are similar in that they both believe the Church is exempt from the wrath of God–where they disagree is in what constitutes the “wrath of God”; Pre-Wrath’s contention is that the wrath of God consists of the Day of the Lord–that is what we are promised to be exempt from; The Day of the Lord does not begin until sometime in the second half of Daniel’s 70th week

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Ryan’s new book: