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Concluding this series on the Prewrath rapture with some final comments by Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute…

[Part 27 of a 27-Part series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: Charles Cooper Interview – Prewrath Rapture
Date: 2/2/11
Host: Chris White
Guest: Charles Cooper
Notes: You can hide one person on this earth, but you can’t hide millions… we are talking about millions and millions of believers; It would be a whole lot harder to hide one million people than it is to hide one person; The purpose of the book, “Fight, Flight, or Faith: How to Survive the Great Tribulation“, was to show that during this time there are going to be lots of people killed for their faith; The book of Revelation tells us that a significant number of them will be beheaded; We’re told this is going to happen… God already knows who’s going to be beheaded–this is something He is allowing; Revelation 6 says there are a significant number of individuals who end up under the throne of God in heaven, waiting for Him to avenge their death on the earth; Reading the book of Revelation, it is unmistakably clear that God already knows–in fact, intends–for a particular number of people to be killed in relationship to this period; Dying doesn’t seem to be the issue of concern with God–what seems to be of paramount importance is our faithfulness… whether we, in the face of intense persecution, can stand our ground by faith, and trust Him that what He is allowing is exactly what He wants for our lives; The purpose of the book is to call you to develop some faith muscles–it is better to prepare now; The same faith that would deliver you during the great tribulation, is the same faith that can deliver you now; “By faith” living is what believers have always been called to–the Word of God is explicit, “the righteous shall live by faith“–not your guns, not how well you hide, but by faith; Faith does not mean your stupid, faith is not pacifism… faith is trusting God to give you clear directions about what you should or should not do, at the moment you walk into crises

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run interviews Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute about the timing of the rapture…

[Part 26 of a 27-Part series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: Charles Cooper Interview – Prewrath Rapture
Date: 2/2/11
Host: Chris White
Guest: Charles Cooper
Notes: The Prewrath position states that the church will go through the persecution of Antichrist, which is before and distinct from the wrath of God; “Fight, Flight, or Faith: How to Survive the Great Tribulation“, by Charles Cooper; Argument to those who insist that God would ordain it–and that we should be preparing for–an intense guerilla war in response to the persecution of Antichrist; That is a dangerous philosophy to take… that God actually would want us to arm ourselves with all the weaponry that we can have at our disposal and that we are to slaughter, kill, and do everything we can to the wicked when they come to harass us because of our followership of Christ; That is not a New Testament model; We don’t see the New Testament champions of our faith–Peter, James, John, the apostle Paul–responding that way to Rome and the persecution that they suffered; Paul, Peter, James–these pillars of the New Testament–were all martyred; Thousands of believers were cast into the colosseums, fed to the lions, etc., who did it with a smile to honor their privilege of suffering with Christ; People need to understand how intense and how unique that period is; Think of all the scenarios of people who simply will not be able to go hide somewhere; The logistics of it simply just don’t bear out

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run interviews Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute about the timing of the rapture…

[Part 25 of a 27-Part series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: Charles Cooper Interview – Prewrath Rapture
Date: 2/2/11
Host: Chris White
Guest: Charles Cooper
Notes: The greatest danger for people that hold a pretribulational view of the rapture is: The possibility of a significant number of believers being caught off-guard, or caught unawares, and perhaps the disappointment of what they believed, may lead some of them to panic, abandon the faith, try to engage in conduct that perhaps will put them in compromising situations, etc.; It may lead unnecessarily to the death of millions of people because they were unprepared spiritually–they didn’t develop the faith muscles necessary to resist the unparalleled persecution that the New Testament associates with the period that immediately precedes Christ’s return; The issue really revolves around people learning how to live by faith under any condition, such that if our generation is called upon to be that final generation, that millions and millions of true followers of Jesus Christ will not suffer death needlessly simply because they didn’t have the muscles necessary to stand by faith in the face of intense persecution; This is a problem that is probably uniquely Western; The churches of Europe, Africa, and Asia would have very little of a significant change in their life if we went into that final period–they know how to endure under intense persecution; The church in the West–and particularly the American church–is so weak when it comes to persecution that thousands and thousands would die needlessly simply because they don’t know what to do, because they never anticipated being here; Christians panicked and went to pieces after 9/11 and were not able to stand in the confidence and the quietness of their faith, simply because they never thought it would happen; Rather than going into denial and self-preservation, etc., we need to do as Christ instructed for His believers to do, which is to stand by faith and trusting in the sovereign will of God–that God has it under control, that He has His people in His hand, and that nothing can touch us that He does not allow by His own sovereign election

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Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute provides a brief overview of the Prewrath rapture position…

[Part 1 of a 27-Part series]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: Charles Cooper Interview – Prewrath Rapture
Date: 2/2/11
Host: Chris White
Guest: Charles Cooper
Notes: The Prewrath view is primarily a synthesis of the three popular views on the timing of the Lord’s return; The basic categories were either Pretribulational, Midtribulational, or Posttribulational up until about 20 years ago when they introduced the concept of a “Prewrath Rapture”, which has really kind of taken the place of the old Mid-trib argument; The Prewrath position is really nothing more than a synthesis of the strengths of the three previous rapture positions; It believes that the elect of God will not experience the wrath of God, but they will experience the persecution of Satan and his Antichrist; That demands a removal sometime after the midpoint but before the end of the 70th week, drawing a distinction between the wrath of Satan and the wrath of God–the two greatest periods of wrath the earth will ever know… which is why the Bible speaks of it in that kind of language… that is basically what the Prewrath position is

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Charles Cooper discusses some of the strong points of the Prewrath Rapture perspective…

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Biblical Evidence Of The Church’s Exposure To The AntiChrist’s Persecution, And The Proper Response OF Faith
Date: 2/9/09
Host: Dr. Future
Guest: Charles Cooper
Topics: Synthesis of strongest components of Pre, Mid, and Post-trib viewpoints; Removes contradictions; Biblically defensible; Handles any passage of Scripture; Harmonizes critically important issues

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Dr. Future from the Future Quake Show provides an excellent summary of the Prewrath Rapture perspective…

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Biblical Evidence Of The Church’s Exposure To The AntiChrist’s Persecution, And The Proper Response OF Faith
Date: 2/9/09
Host: Dr. Future
Guest: Charles Cooper
Topics: Key tenets of Prewrath Rapture position; Separation between the wrath of Satan and the wrath of God; 6th seal Rapture in the book of Revelation; Day of the Lord; Antichrist; Authority over saints; Day and hour unknown; Days cut short; Abomination of desolation; Persecution; Signs in the heavens; Redemption; Wrath of God; Trumpets; Bowls

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In the audio clip below, Derek & Sharon Gilbert discuss the Waking Jonah podcast (thanks guys!) and the Pre-Wrath Rapture model.

Here are some quick-links to the Charles Cooper audio clips I’ve posted on this site to date:

Facing Antichrist: Fight, Flight, Or Faith?
Facing Antichrist: Are We Willing To Die For Jesus?
Charles Cooper: What’s Happening In Israel – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3)
The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option? – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6)
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option? – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6)
The Great Tribulation: Faith Is The Only Option – Part 1 (Part 2 / 3 / 4)

Show: P.I.D. Radio
Full Podcast: P.I.D. Radio 12/6/09: Copenhagen, Hopenhagen, or Gropenhagen?
Date: 12/6/09
Hosts: Derek Gilbert, Sharon Gilbert
Topics: Waking Jonah podcast; Cognitive dissonance; Charles Cooper; The Pre-Wrath model for the End Times timeline; Whether it’s Pre-Trib or Pre-Wrath, we have today, and that’s it; If we’re gone on the first day of Daniel’s 70th Week, then we leave something behind; If we’re still here during a portion of it, then we need to prepare now; We need to learn as much as we can and be on our knees as much as we can; What is the proper Christian response? Do we stock up on gold and guns to get through the tribulation portion leading up to the Day of the Lord, or do we not?; Charles Cooper’s position–backed by Scripture–is that we are not supposed to fight the forces of the Antichrist with guns

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

In this clip, Charles Cooper concludes the discussion about faith–not fight or flight–being the only option during the Great Persecution of Antichrist.

To study these topics in greater depth, Cooper’s book “Fight, Flight or Faith: How to Survive the Great Tribulation” is an excellent resource.

[Part 4 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: To endure we must be people of great faith; You’re going to have to trust the sovereign plan of God; What He is allowing to happen is His will, and what He allows to happen to you is His will for your life; How you respond will indicate whether or not you fully appreciate that; Our minds cannot fathom the idea that God could allow us to undergo great persecution; We must endure… faith is the key

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

[Part 3 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: The Great Tribulation will end just as God has decreed–with the glorious manifestation of Jesus Christ to deliver His people and pour out wrath on the wicked; It initiates the Day of the Lord, during which God will accomplish the salvation of Israel; God sovereignly decreed it, He sovereignly executed it, and it will sovereignly end; What is our response to the sovereignty of God?; We will have two responsibilities in connection with this final period: to endure and to have faith

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

[Part 2 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: Regardless of the nature of the final 7-year period, it is God’s sovereign decreed time; He is allowing it to happen and it will ultimately be a fulfillment of His divine will–we are in good hands; If God sovereignly allows it, it is not going to be contrary to His will; Part of the 70th week is God’s permissive will, part of it is His perfect will; The period of time is sovereignly decreed, sovereignly executed, and sovereignly ended

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Editor’s note: Please see also the two previous Charles Cooper series:

The Great Tribulation: Is Fighting An Option?
The Great Tribulation: Is Fleeing An Option?

In this new series, Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute emphasizes the need for faith in enduring the persecution of Antichrist during the Great Tribulation.

In the first audio clip, Cooper discusses the sovereignty of God in connection with this period of time…

[Part 1 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Prewrath Radio Online
Full Podcast: Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation
Date: 9/20/09
Host: Charles Cooper
Topics: Cooper’s book “Fight, Flight, or Faith: How to Survive the Great Tribulation“; God has called us to a life of faith; Revelation 13:5-10 – “If anyone is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if anyone is to be slain with the sword, with the sword must he be slain.“; The strongest statement of the sovereign control of God in connection with this period that occurs in the Revelation; The final week of Daniel is first a sovereignly decreed period

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