Waking Jonah

Continuing the series on the true beliefs of the founding fathers, this time with Tom Horn interviewing Chris Pinto on the Raiders News Network…

[Part 33 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Raiders News Network
Full Podcast: Documentary filmmaker Chris Pinto Discusses “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers”
Date: 11/4/10
Host: Tom Horn
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: “Patriotic Christianity” – A modernized version of the Jewish zealot movement 2,000 years ago in the days of Jesus and the apostles… they believed they needed to take up arms and overthrow the pagan Roman empire that was occupying ancient Israel; We have Christian zealots in America today that look at the founding fathers because they think they were Christians, and that God gave approval to their so-called “Christian” revolution… they believe that we as Christians should follow their example; Glenn Beck and David Barton are presenting a form of “patriotic Christianity” and Christians all over the country are being swept up in this movement; It’s an opportunity for the universalist movement to gather up all the different religions of faith under the banner of some kind of quasi-Christian movement; It promotes the one-world religion concept that really began with the founding fathers–that’s what the founders wanted… they didn’t want to promote Christianity; George Washington wanted a country where all religions could have equal footing–that’s what they were fighting for… they weren’t fighting for Christianity; Christianity was the dominant belief of most Americans at that time… the founders were guilty of a betrayal during the revolutionary era; They hijacked the country and set forth a secular Constitution with a universalist view of God that was not at all representative of the American people; Christians for the last 200 years have been fighting against this in this country

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Derek Gilbert from A View From the Bunker…

[Part 30 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: There are a lot of mysteries through the founding era; The documentary “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers“; Quote from Charles Thomson, the Congressional Secretary, who was said to be the man the most familiar with the Revolution and the heroes of the revolution; Thomson had written a detailed history of all the events that took place… he was encouraged to publish it, but instead destroyed it because he didn’t want to “undeceive future generations”; So many of the founders were a part of different secret groups… they were not only plotting against England, but they were also plotting against Christianity in America; Quote from Congress in the 1880′s… “If the American people had suspected that the Revolution was hostile to Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle”; The purpose of the Revolution was to push Christianity and the Bible out the door… the problem is that the American people didn’t know it–they didn’t realize what the founders were trying to do; The founders were deceivers, and they put forth documents that really did not represent the interests of the American people at that time… because a vast majority of the people in the country were Bible-believing Christians

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Derek Gilbert from A View From the Bunker…

[Part 29 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: George Washington had 3 pastors… Bishop William White, who was his pastor on and off for over 25 years, said that even though he was often in Washington’s company, he never heard anything from him that would suggest he was a believer in the Christian revelation; Reverend James Abercrombie said openly that Washington was a Deist; Washington refused to take communion in church; Bishop White wrote that he never saw Washington kneeling in prayer in church; All the images we see of Washington kneeling reverentially and crying out to God is not really an accurate picture; Dr. Ashbel Green (the Congressional Chaplain for 8 years while Washington served as president) had lunch with Washington on a regular basis, and he said he knew it to be the case that while Washington had respect for the Christian religion, he simply did not believe in the divine origin of the Bible or the Jewish-Christian revelation–he didn’t believe the gospel… that was very typical of the revolutionaries; Part of the influence of the Enlightenment comes from Jean Jacques Rousseau, who believed that Christians were too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good to the State; Rousseau thought there should be a national religion that would unite a country, but that it shouldn’t be Christianity–that is what the influence of the founders has been; That is what the religion of America has become… sort of this national idea

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Continuing the series on the true beliefs of the founding fathers… this time with Derek Gilbert interviewing Chris Pinto on Derek’s radio show, A View from the Bunker.

[Part 26 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: A View From The Bunker
Full Podcast: VFTB Live: Chris Pinto — Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
Date: 10/29/10
Host: Derek Gilbert
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: The whole argument of the founding fathers as alleged Christians is being used by people like Glenn Beck and David Barton to energize Christians and entangle them in this political right-wing agenda… to politicize Christianity in our American system and “take America back” to the founding fathers; The problem is… the founding fathers–by biblical definition–were antichrists; The Bible says “who is antichrist but he that denies the Father and the Son”–this is something you can prove about most of the chief founders; The founders were really deceiving the country because a lot of their views were not known by the greater body of the population; There was a movement during the Civil War era where Christians were trying to get the Constitution re-written to include references to God, and specifically references to the Lord Jesus Christ; People have been arguing against what the founders did since the Revolution–for the last 200 years; The revolutionaries were not Christian heroes–they were antichrists who were trying to destroy Christianity in our country… that’s the shocking revelation

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 22 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Exposing the Idolatrous Myth of the “Faith” of The Founding Fathers
Date: 10/11/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: David Barton’s techniques to deceive people about the founding fathers; Quote used on the Glenn Beck program and in churches–John Adams talking about the Holy Ghost; Barton makes it sound like Adams is speaking favorably about the Holy Ghost… the problem is that as a Unitarian, Adams did not even believe the Holy Ghost existed; If you read the rest of that quote, he’s really mocking what Christians believe; David Barton takes that quote–and many others–out of the full context; He also quotes Thomas Jefferson where Jefferson said “I am a real Christian”–what Jefferson was saying is that he’s a “real” Christian because he believes that Jesus was just an ordinary man, not the Son of God… and if you believe in all the supernatural aspects of the Bible, you’re not a “real” Christian; Jefferson was mocking the real faith of Christians/mocking the gospel

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Dr. Future discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Tom Bionic and Chris Pinto on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 18 of an ongoing series. Click here for Part 1.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: The whole idea about the founding fathers being wonderful Christian men and the ideal that we need to hold on to is a total myth–it’s harmful to Christianity, and Christians today seem to be the most gullable to embrace it; We need to have clear-headed thinking about our role in the body of Christ and our citizenship in heaven vs. just taking blatant patriotism and accepting it wholeheartedly and not comparing it to what we’re really committed to as Christians; This is a dialogue that needs to go on across the country in a very respectful tone amongst Christians… it’s going to be critically important in the days ahead

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Dr. Future

Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 13 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: “Christian” leaders in our country today will sit under Reverend Wright or be a member of Skull and Bones, yet still speak about their Christianity when prompted; A guy like George W. Bush is the fruit of the outward fakery of people involved in secret societies; Bush is a member of the Bohemian Grove, where they go and bow down to their owl god and take part in occult ceremonies; Neither George Bush nor John Kerry ever renounced their involvement in the Skull and Bones Society; Bush gets on Good Morning America and tells Charlie Gibson that he believes there are many routes to finding God, and that Christianity and Islam are just two different ways to get there; Political advisor to the Bush family that told him he better have a “conversion experience” or he wasn’t going to win; The walk on the beach with the Reverend Billy Graham… that Graham doesn’t remember; Politicians haven’t changed, what has changed is that the Christians back in the old days were a lot more discerning

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Bush: Many paths to God

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 12 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: Benjamin Franklin; George Washington; Founding Fathers; Freemasonry; Teachings from Freemason lodges; American Revolution; Christianity; Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings; Agenda for America goes back to the beginning of the country; Sir Francis Bacon; England; Scotland; Doctrines of Freemasonry; Celebrating pagan ideas in the inner sanctuaries, while outwardly professing Christianity using Christian phraseology

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 10 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: The forgotten part of America’s history that we need to rediscover as believers… pastors/researchers/Christians (such as Reverend Bird Wilson) who were very diligent to go and find out what was the real faith of the founders and what was the American Revolution really about; One pastor preached a sermon where he says that none of the leaders guiding the American government at that time were men who were making a profession of Christianity; The Philadelphia Clergy tried to compel George Washington to make a public profession of Christianity (one way or the other) in his farewell address as president… to “counteract the infidelity of Thomas Paine and the other revolutionaries”, They believed the revolutionaries were infidels, not men who who were out there promoting biblical Christianity… they were promoting esoteric Enlightenment ideas; H. Grattan Guinness (an English preacher in the late 19th Century) openly attributes the revolutionary movements to infidelity–said Christianity didn’t have anything to do with it; Washington refused to make a public profession of his faith as a Christian–was referred to as the “sly old fox” by Jefferson because of it; Many of our politicians today will say something that almost sounds Christian, but it’s very hard to nail them down specifically

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 8 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: Thomas Paine is revered today… considered the heart and soul of the movement of the rebellion that lead to the American Revolution; Christian Americans have forgotten his staunch stand against Christianity; What the founding fathers said re: human reasoning vs. supernatural miracles/revelation from God; Paine’s book “The Age of Reason“; Georgia Guidestones; The pagans would put the goddess of reason on a throne, symbolizing that they worshiped reason; This is what the freemasons and the revolutionaries did in France when they had the French Revolution; Reason in place of Christianity; The founding fathers (Jefferson, Washington, and others) exalted human reasoning so high that they had a very low regard for the supernatural aspects of the Christian faith (revelation directly from God, miracles, intervention by God into nature); Deism; Many of the founding fathers (Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, John Paul Jones, Paine, etc.) were all interacting with the revolutionaries over in France and then they were coming back to America; When Franklin was asked about Christianity, he said his view of Christianity and the Bible was in agreement with the Enlightenment thinkers over in France–they put reason on a throne

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Chris Pinto discusses the true beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 4 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: Imagine going into a church professing Jesus Christ and seeing a big statue of Zeus, Neptune coming up out of the water, naked water nymphs, Europa riding a bull, Athena with the serpent coiled up next to her, etc… (as found outside the Library of Congress and inside the Senate building)… What would you think?; If it’s not appropriate for Christians to have that kind of imagery inside a church, why would it be deemed appropriate to set up those kind of images in the capital city of what is supposed to be a Christian nation?; Why are biblical characters conspicuously missing?; The Bible says that these gods and goddesses of the ancient Greek and Roman world are demonic powers and principalities; William Bradford understood the bacchanalia (those who worshiped Bacchus in the ancient world); Bradford had training in who Bacchus was and what the pagan ceremonies were, but he clearly understood that this is anti-Christian and contrary to God

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Chris Pinto discusses the philosophies and beliefs of the founding fathers with Dr. Future and Tom Bionic on the Future Quake Show…

[Part 1 of an ongoing series.]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: The “True” Faith Of The Founding Fathers, And The Roots And Premises Of “Patriotic” Christianity
Date: 3/22/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Chris Pinto
Topics: “Patriotic Christianity”; The American Revolution and founding of the United States of America; Country founded as a Christian nation?; A Christian revolution for the cause of Jesus Christ?; Ministries will have the Bible in one hand and the American flag in the other, as though they are equally important and that one represents the other; The Puritan Pilgrims who came over on the Mayflower were–for the most part–Bible believing Christians; The early American settlers that founded Harvard University openly professed Jesus Christ and the gospel; The American Revolutionaries (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Paine, John Adams, etc.) and their philosophies/ideas were not at all about promoting the Bible or biblical Christianity; The farthest thing from their mind was establishing a Christian nation…

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Dr. Future from the Future Quake Show and Jeffrey Seif from Zola Levitt Ministries continue their discussion about how the Lord is calling people out of all nations–including Arab ones–to become His disciples…

[Part 2 of a 2-Part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: An Exhortation From the Bible To Respect the Arab Peoples
Date: 9/20/10
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Dr. Jeffrey Seif
Topics: Revelation 18 – the merchants of the world have a conspiracy to deceive all the nations of the earth; All nations are victim to this kind of activity by the principalities and powers in control; People can be reached–we need to show them the good news; Dr. Seif is speaking as a Jew, with his heart in Jewish culture, and is supportive of Israel; Casting a vision for a better story; We need to take individuals on their merits and not give any credence to race hate; There are lots of positive interactions with Arab peoples in the biblical narrative, both Old and New Testaments (including prophetic literature); Giving a better example of what it means to be Christian in a world where authentic Christianity can be in very high demand but very short supply; The Messianic Jewish population may have to lead the way in showing the example of what it means to bear Christ’s love; The Lord wants all people to come and by unified by His sacrifice on the cross

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Dr. Jeffrey Seif

[Part 60 of a 60-Part series. Click here for Part 1.]

This is the final episode in the series “Why I Am a Pentecostal“… I hope it has been thought provoking for you!

I will provide my own personal testimony about this in the near future, but in the meantime, please don’t hesitate to email me if you have any questions. Also, I highly recommend the following messages for further study on the distinctives of Pentecostal doctrine…

(*All messages can be found in the New Life Church Sermon Archive.)

05/19/10 | “The Oneness of God,” Pastor Bernard
05/26/10 | “The Identity of Jesus Christ,” Pastor Bernard
06/02/10 | “The New Birth,” Pastor Shaw
06/09/10 | “Speaking in Tongues: Initial Evidence of Spirit Baptism,” Pastor Shaw
08/08/10 | “Be Filled with the Spirit, Part 1,” Pastor Shaw
08/08/10 | “Be Filled with the Spirit, Part 2,” Pastor Shaw

Ministry: New Life Church of Austin, TX
Full Podcast: Restoring the Apostles’ Doctrine
Date: 5/5/10
Speaker: Rodney Shaw
Topics: The hermeneutical spiral – constant interaction with the text; What’s unique about Pentecostals and restorationists is that we bring something a little different–we bring an experience of the Spirit of God; Not only are we gaining understanding, but we are also gaining experience; Then we bring that experience/spiritual encounter with God back to the text; The role of history–History documents the extent to which people have been faithful to the Word of God; If we lifted up 2,000 years of history and set it aside, and then took your experience and your belief and put it side by side with only the New Testament… does it fit? Does it match?; Like the Apostle Paul asked the Ephesians, we can feel very confident asking… have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed? That’s not a question we get from 2,000 years of church history, it’s a question we get from the New Testament (see Acts 19:1-7)

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Rodney Shaw