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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 11

Posted by on Monday, 29 August, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 11 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes: 
The word “parousia” (coming) is only used 24 times in the New Testament; The definition includes and encompasses all the things that Christ will do, starting with the rapture–His visible return, the raising of the dead, the last judgment, and the setting up of the kingdom after Armageddon; The rapture will be the first thing to happen at His coming (“parousia”), but there are not multiple “parousias”; There is only one word that is used to describe all of those tasks; In Greek literature, the word was used to describe a visit from a king to the area that the king ruled over; It was used to refer to his arrival, and the entirety of his visit… the “parousia” or “coming” of the king could last a long time; Matthew 13:30; Matthew 13:39-40; Matthew 24:4-8; He says that in the days leading up to His “parousia”, there are going to be signposts, but He warns us that these should not be confused with the End of the Age, or the Wrath of God; These signs are only the beginnings of sorrows–the word there is “birth pangs” in some translations

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 10

Posted by on Friday, 26 August, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 10 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes: 
Compare Matthew 24 to Revelation 19 (the classic Armageddon passage) to see if Matthew 24:31 is speaking of Armageddon, like some pretribulationalists claim; Armageddon takes place at the end of the 7-year period, and just before the millennium; Revelation 19:11-18; Matthew 24:3

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 9

Posted by on Wednesday, 10 August, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 9 of a 27-Part series]

Matthew 24 chart

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
Matthew 24 is by far the most critical passage concerning the timing of the rapture–it connects the book of Daniel to the book of Revelation, and it fills in the gaps that will solve the rapture puzzle; When Christ tells his disciples in Matthew 24 of the events leading up to His coming, He ends that chronology with a description of the rapture; Matthew 24:30-31; 1 Thess 4:15-18; Charles Cooper’s book “God’s Elect and the Great Tribulation“; Matthew 24:29-31 has more in common with 1 Thess 4:13-18 than any other passage that is considered to be a rapture passage; The early church held the same view about Matthew 24; The King James 1611 edition seems to be Prewrath, in that it considers Matthew 24:31 comparable to 1 Thess. 4:16, as well as 1 Cor. 15:52 (both classic rapture passages)

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 8

Posted by on Tuesday, 9 August, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 8 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
Matthew 24:29-31; “tribulation” = “thlipsis” in the Greek; There’s so much confusion about this verse because we have defined this word “tribulation” incorrectly as the wrath of God; If we do that, then we have to pretend this verse isn’t talking about the rapture, even though it’s a mirror image of the famous verse in 1 Thess. 4; This is talking about a great affliction/persecution being cut short by the rapture; Mark 4:16-17; John 16:33; Acts 14:22; Romans 5:3; Romans 8:35; Romans 12:12; We are not going to go through the wrath of God, but to say that we aren’t going to go through “thlipsis” is quite simply unbiblical; There will be great tribulation–a great “thlipsis”–the persecution by the Antichrist that Christ describes, but we are promised that we will be raptured out from the midst of it, just before the Day of the Lord and the wrath of God against the wicked will begin; The wrath of God is poured out on the Day of the Lord; God alone, not the Antichrist, will be exalted on that day; The Day of the Lord is a long period of time–at least 5 months, but probably longer; The sun, moon, and stars sign will precede the Day of the Lord; The rapture and the Day of the Lord are back-to-back events; Imminence is not able to be found in Scripture or the early church

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 7

Posted by on Friday, 22 July, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 7 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
The doctrine of “imminence” held by pretribulationalists: the idea that no events, prophetic or otherwise, need to occur before the rapture happens (it could have occurred at any moment in the last 2,000 years); This is contrasted with the many events that must precede the Day of the Lord; If the rapture and the Day of the Lord are back-to-back events, the rapture could not have happened for the last 2,000 years; There is a time period in which the Lord’s return will be imminent, but only after certain events take place first… but after they do, it will be imminent; Church writings never taught that the rapture could come before the Antichrist until the 1800s

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 6

Posted by on Saturday, 18 June, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 6 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
Luke 17:22,26-30; Jesus says that His return will be like the days of Noah–God will deliver His faithful, and on the same day begin the destruction of the wicked; Genesis 7; It explicitly states that they entered the ark the exact same day that the rains began; Genesis 7:11-13; Luke 17:27 – “They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.“; They entered the ark (salvation of the righteous), floods came (destruction of the wicked), on the same day; Jesus mentions the same thing with Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah, in the same passage, just to make this point clear (Luke 17:28-29); Understanding the back-to-back nature of the rapture and the Day of the Lord will help to solve the rapture debate

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 5

Posted by on Friday, 10 June, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run breaks down the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 5 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10; Paul says that the repaying of the wicked will happen on the same day of the church’s glorification; The opening of the second letter to the Thessalonians is assuring them that the rapture is still a future event, and that the rapture will in fact deliver them from their tribulations when it does happen; It is literally impossible to understand 2 Thessalonians 2 unless you understand that Paul believed and taught the Thessalonians that the rapture would initiate the Day of the Lord; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-5:2; 2 Timothy 4:7-8

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 4

Posted by on Friday, 29 April, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 4 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
One of the most important things to understand is that the persecution of Christians by the Antichrist is not the wrath of God, but instead, the wrath of Satan; Revelation 12:12; Revelation 13:4-7; The wrath of God/Day of the Lord is against the wicked–Satan’s wrath is just the opposite, it is against the righteous; 2 Thessalonians 2:4; The abomination of desolation–where the Antichrist exalts himself–is when the persecution of Christians begins in full swing; Daniel, Matthew, and John in Revelation all tie the abomination of desolation to the start of serious persecution of Christians, but Christ says this particular persecution will be “cut short” for the elect’s sake; God’s wrath is what will bring Satan’s wrath to an end… God will rescue His people from the Antichrist’s persecution and begin the Day of the Lord; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-8; The rapture and the Day of the Lord are back-to-back events; We’re told that we’re going to be raptured before God’s wrath, and the Day of the Lord is God’s wrath… so it would stand to reason that as soon as we are raptured, the wrath would begin; This would also explain all the verses that tell Christians to look forward to and hasten the Day of the Lord, or as Luke puts it, to “lift up your heads”, but yet in the same breath they speak of it as punishment for the wicked

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 3

Posted by on Wednesday, 20 April, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 3 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
Many passages speak of the Day of the Lord as an unparalleled time of God’s wrath; Zephaniah 1:18; Isaiah 2:17; Revelation 6:16-17; 2 Peter 3:7,10; The book of Joel is almost entirely about the Day of the Lord; Joel 2:31 – “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come“; This is also repeated in the New Testament in the book of Acts when it says, “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come” (Acts 2:20); When the signs in the sun, moon, and stars are given, everyone will be terrified… except for the righteous people, who are told to look forward to this day, because it means that their redemption is drawing near; Luke 21:25-28; 2 Peter 3:10-12; Genesis 1:14

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 2

Posted by on Monday, 18 April, 2011

Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 2 of a 27-Part series]

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The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date:
4/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Notes:
There have traditionally been three views of the rapture: Pre, Mid, and Post-trib, however in 2010, the 2nd Edition of “Three Views on the Rapture” did away with the second position–Midtribulational–and replaced it with Prewrath; This shows that the Prewrath position is not some fly-by-night view, but can be articulated and defended from a scholarly perspective, and that it has overtaken the Midtribulational view in many people’s minds; It could ultimately end the rapture debate altogether if it can be given a fair hearing; One of the greatest obstacles to a true debate on this matter is that people are unaware of what the Prewrath view is actually saying; The book of Revelation gives us very vivid images of the wrath of God–it is symbolized as a scroll… there are seals that are keeping the scroll from being opened; The seals are not the judgment itself, but only the contents of the scroll are considered “God’s wrath”; In the last days, the wrath of God will be played out during a specific time period called “The Day of the Lord”; This Day is referred to about 70 times in the Old and New Testaments; Christians will be raptured before this time

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The Prewrath Rapture – Part 1

Posted by on Thursday, 14 April, 2011

Charles Cooper from the Prewrath Resource Institute provides a brief overview of the Prewrath rapture position…

[Part 1 of a 27-Part series]

Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video:
Charles Cooper Interview – Prewrath Rapture
Date:
2/2/11
Host:
Chris White
Guest:
Charles Cooper
Notes:
The Prewrath view is primarily a synthesis of the three popular views on the timing of the Lord’s return; The basic categories were either Pretribulational, Midtribulational, or Posttribulational up until about 20 years ago when they introduced the concept of a “Prewrath Rapture”, which has really kind of taken the place of the old Mid-trib argument; The Prewrath position is really nothing more than a synthesis of the strengths of the three previous rapture positions; It believes that the elect of God will not experience the wrath of God, but they will experience the persecution of Satan and his Antichrist; That demands a removal sometime after the midpoint but before the end of the 70th week, drawing a distinction between the wrath of Satan and the wrath of God–the two greatest periods of wrath the earth will ever know… which is why the Bible speaks of it in that kind of language… that is basically what the Prewrath position is

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Jesus: Friend To Terrorists – Part 4

Posted by on Thursday, 27 January, 2011

Dr. Future and Tom Bionic discuss the book “Jesus: Friend to Terrorists“, by Pastor Richard Wurmbrand, with Todd Nettleton, Director of Media Development for Voice of the Martyrs

[Part 4 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast:
Rev. Wurmbrand’s Appeal For Christian Love For Terrorists Today
Date: 11/1/10
Hosts:
Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Todd Nettleton
Notes: The last line that Reverand Wurmbrand gives us in his book is “start by changing yourself“; You become more peaceful, you become more loving, and pretty soon, if all of us do that, we’ll start to have a world that is more peaceful and more loving; It’s a charge that you can’t walk away from and you can’t pass it off to somebody else… it’s on you to take the truth that you have and to start making it more a part of your life; You have to first believe that the Holy Spirit has the power in each of us to make this change one-on-one in people… it’s not necessarily a ballot box or any other power structures that are the key to win the battle, but it’s the Holy Spirit one-on-one in each one of us; You also have to acknowledge that these battles are spiritual battles, and not physical battles; When it says in the Bible that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and rulers in these dark places… if we’re going to have a struggle or anything regarding hatred, it should be addressed to the principalities and powers of darkness who stand condemned, rather than the human pawns that are in this physical sphere that are just a mere shadow of the spiritual battle that is truly going on; We have access to the power to change ourselves… not literally us changing ourselves, but allowing God to change us; When you see a terrorist and you see that God loves them and that God can change them, that changes your whole mindset of how you’re going to address them and interact with them, not as somebody to fear and hate, but as somebody who Jesus died for that needs to hear the message of the gospel… that’s a completely different mindset; Christians should get together and pray for these people, that God would illuminate their minds to what they’re doing, to fill them with the love of Jesus Christ, and somehow make a way that they could know about Jesus

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Jesus: Friend To Terrorists – Part 3

Posted by on Thursday, 27 January, 2011

Dr. Future and Tom Bionic discuss the book “Jesus: Friend to Terrorists“, by Pastor Richard Wurmbrand, with Todd Nettleton, Director of Media Development for Voice of the Martyrs

[Part 3 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast:
Rev. Wurmbrand’s Appeal For Christian Love For Terrorists Today
Date: 11/1/10
Hosts:
Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Todd Nettleton
Notes: Jesus fears and hates no one; According to Pastor Wurmbrand, the exortation “do not be afraid” is in the Bible 366 times; How should we feel about terrorists?… we should not be afraid, and we should not have hatred for them; We should see them through the eyes of Christ, and see them with His love, as somebody who has been led astray, but somebody with a soul that Jesus came and died for; Our media–even our Christian media–foster that fear and hate (or don’t fight against it); We have become the 30-second sound bite culture and you can’t have any nuance in a 30-second soundbite… so “Muslims are bad, and Christians are good”… that’s the soundbite–that’s the context of the reporting that we get; If you can get people scared about the menace, you will make them to do all sorts of things that they normally wouldn’t do; If you can convince them that if they don’t do this, they’re gonna lose family, friends, their way of life, etc., they will do stuff that is anathema to the gospel; American has just stayed in a perpetual state of emergency, and our Christian culture has stayed with that button… it has now switched gears over to Islam; It’s a lucrative position to take to keep the fans of of fear and hate; Americans will give a lot of money not to be fearful

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Jesus: Friend To Terrorists – Part 2

Posted by on Wednesday, 26 January, 2011

Dr. Future and Tom Bionic discuss the book “Jesus: Friend to Terrorists“, by Pastor Richard Wurmbrand, with Todd Nettleton, Director of Media Development for Voice of the Martyrs

[Part 2 of a 4-Part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast:
Rev. Wurmbrand’s Appeal For Christian Love For Terrorists Today
Date: 11/1/10
Hosts:
Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Todd Nettleton
Notes: Across the Middle East there are stories of dreams and visions of God appearing to people–of Christ coming to them personally; God is going where his people are refusing to go and is ministering to them directly; A person in Iran came forward with a hand-written book that turned out to be word-for-word the entire gospel of John, which had been dictated to them by a “man” in a white robe that came to them at night; There are many Muslims who are seeking and want to do what God wants them to do… praise the Lord that He is reaching them and calling many to go and share the message there; God loves every one of them, He does not fear them, He loves and cares about them, and He’s looking for children who will come where the fields are white unto harvest and will reflect Him; We need to tell them the good news… that their sins can be forgiven, that they can see God one day, that they can have God as their Father; A lot of the Christian leadership in America has been so consumed with fanning the flames of fear and hatred for these people, and glorifying perpetual military solutions, that we’re missing out on on being able to participate in many of those blessings; The middle road is love… we love you and don’t want to see you go to hell, so because of our love, that’s why we’ve come with the gospel; Whether the fruit is accepted or not, that’s God’s task, not ours; We can’t share the gospel with these people and hate them all at the same time

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