Waking Jonah

Byron LeBeau and Greg Messina from Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio discuss the book of Enoch…

[Part 3 of a 5-part series]

Show: Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio
Full Podcast: Going Inside The Curs-ed Net
Date: 5/27/08
Hosts: Byron LeBeau and Greg Messina

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Notes: A majority of the book ["The Curs-ed Net"] goes into the book of Enoch, which is non-canonical; Most Christians shy away from any non-canonical texts; Enoch was mentioned in at least four books of the Bible; Many of the early church fathers (Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Cassian, etc.) all supported what Enoch had said… but there were these forces in the world that didn’t like this approach because it was almost unmasking the real nature of the fallen angels; A kibosh was put on the book of Enoch; When Jude cited Enoch, he cited what is in fact Chapter 22 of the Ethiopian book of Enoch, which was not found until the 18th century and was not really fully translated by Richard Laurence until the 19th century; Enoch was a prophet of God and was one of the only other people in Scripture–other than Elijah–who was taken up… who did not see death

Byron LeBeau from the Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio program discusses ufology, mythology, fallen angels, giants, and the book of Enoch…

[Part 2 of a 5-part series]

Show: Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio
Full Podcast: Going Inside The Curs-ed Net
Date: 5/27/08
Host: Byron LeBeau

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Notes: Many people who try to get their minds wrapped around ufology miss the very point… and it becomes a stumbling block to them, and they don’t understand that if they used their Bible properly, and if they understood what the book of Enoch said, they would be able to see through the nonsense that has been propagated through the major media–mainstream media–all working in consort with one another to take us away from–veer us away from–the truth… and there’s a reason for that; The main themes of “The Bite of the Serpent” and “The Curs-ed Net“; The biblical reality of the UFO and abduction phenomena; The fallen angels are the false gods… and they have pretended to be the real gods of every culture in history, throughout history; God wiped out the false angels’ fruit with the great flood… but not completely… and that’s why we have historical references to things like giants; Giants were the fruit of Genesis 6:4; It’s no coincidence that Greek mythology is actually mirroring not a myth, but the kernel of truth–from their perspective–of what really transpired on the earth… there were giants in those days; Greek mythology, Roman mythology, and a number of other mythologies throughout the world actually mirror not mythology, but the fallen angels that Enoch talked about; These fallen angels, when they came down, they took over and they presented themselves as the gods to the cultures of the world; Since they had many different supernatural abilities, including shape-shifting, they could easily fool many people who did not understand what was really happening; That’s part of the dilemma that people are faced with today… they don’t really understand what really came down–literally, figuratively, symbolically–and was spoken to in the Bible in the Old Testament… and this is where we have a problem today

After hearing of Byron LeBeau‘s passing just a few short months ago, I began to listen through the archives of the radio show he co-hosted, the Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio program. What an amazing spirit that man had… truly.

Byron will be missed, but his legacy and deep spiritual insight lives on. Here he is discussing the UFO and abduction phenomena, fallen angels, Nephilim, and the book of Enoch…

[Part 1 of a 5-part series]

Show: Curs-ed Net Breakthrough Radio
Full Podcast: Going Inside The Curs-ed Net
Date: 5/27/08
Host: Byron LeBeau

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Notes: Ufology; Zecharia Sitchin; Biogenetic engineering; The Bible; Anunnaki; Gnostics; Genesis 3; Book of Enoch; UFO and abduction phenomena; Fallen angels and demonic forces; 1 Enoch 68:18; Evil spirits spoken to in the New Testament; Nephilim; Fallen angels and daughters of men cohabitating, producing giants, and when they died… evil spirits actually roamed the world and were responsible for many, many of the things we see currently in the UFO and abduction phenomenas

Dr. Future and Will Grigg discuss the religious right and militarism…

[Part 4 of a 5-part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Show 295 1-6-2012 Future Quake – Seventh Annual Future Quake “Predictions” Show
Date: 1/6/12
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Will Grigg
Notes: The Values Voter Summit for the religious right–to get the Christian vote in the straw poll; Ron Paul was the only candidate of any of them that opened up their Bible, and talked from the Bible; He talked about the Beatitudes and the Golden Rule; That element of the conservative Christian demographic in America that calls itself the Christian right is completely wedded to militarism (as indissolubly wedded to militarism as was the positivist Christian church–the so-called positive Christian German church of the 1920′s–that later on added Mein Kampf to the cannon, and put Mein Kampf in a place of honor that had once been reserved for the family Bible); The Bonhoeffer biography “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy“, by Eric Metaxas

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Will Grigg from Pro Libertate blog discusses Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the American evangelical church, Ron Paul, and the Golden Rule…

[Part 3 of a 5-part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Show 295 1-6-2012 Future Quake – Seventh Annual Future Quake “Predictions” Show
Date: 1/6/12
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Will Grigg
Notes: Dietrich Bonhoeffer; Bonhoeffer’s letter to a friend: “If you are aboard a train that’s heading the wrong direction, simply switching seats isn’t going to do you any good”; He pointed out that they were unmistakably and irrecoverably on the hot rails to hell, in terms of what the German church was doing; The same thing is happening with the American evangelical church… which is more defined by what they’re taught to hate, than by what we are commanded to do, which is to love; That’s the one thing that betokens our discipleship–the one thing that He said would designate Christians as different from the world is our capacity to love–not merely to love each other, but to love whoever God happens to put in our path; The thing about Ron Paul’s movement that makes it so inexplicable and dangerous to the establishment is that he has the courage to insist that the Golden Rule applies in all spheres of life, especially with respect to what the government does

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Will Grigg from Pro Libertate blog discusses the Golden Rule and Dietrich Bonhoeffer…

[Part 2 of a 5-part series]

Show: Future Quake
Full Podcast: Show 295 1-6-2012 Future Quake – Seventh Annual Future Quake “Predictions” Show
Date: 1/6/12
Hosts: Dr. Future & Tom Bionic
Guest: Will Grigg
Notes: Another thing that is very, very disturbing is the sense that there is a severability clause somewhere in the Sermon on the Mount…; Your “neighbor” is whoever God happens to put in your path–that’s the answer that was given in the parable; Jesus chose as an example a Samaritan (an infidel–a nonbeliever) to illustrate the godly principle that your “neighbor” is whoever God happens to put in your path; That’s something which has been repudiated by that same cohort of a church that embraces torture… because obviously you cannot torture your neighbor… if you’re bound by the Golden Rule, you cannot inflict torture on somebody, because obviously you would not want torture to be inflicted upon yourself; Another illustration of where we might be going is the situation in Germany as described in Eric Metaxas’ book on Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy“; “Positive Christianity”–the state-focused, cultural Christianity of Germany in the early 20th Century; As early as 1933, Bonhoeffer knew that he was eventually going to be killed by this regime that he saw rising, which eventually killed him in 1945

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 13 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: Matthew 24:9; Revelation 6:7-8; The 4th seal – death; “by the wild beasts of the earth”; The word for “by” is a different Greek word than the other “with’s” in the verse; Indicates more definitely the actual agent of destruction; The meaning is defined as “under”, often meaning “under authority” of something working directly as a subordinate; It seems that the other things in this verse–the killing with sword and famine–are “by”, or “under authority”, of the “wild beasts”; The term “wild beasts” has led to some false interpretations; “Wild beast” is not the correct translation of the Greek in Revelation 6:8; The word is “therion” and it basically means “beast”, and it can be translated as “beast” (Titus 1:12), or “wild beast” (Acts 11:6)–context determines which translation is best; It’s used 39 times in the book of Revelation, and 38 times the term refers to either the beast (as in the Antichrist), or the false prophet (the second beast), or the image of the beast, and it correctly is translated there as “beast”; However the translators, attempting to clarify the meaning in Revelation 6:8 incorrectly translated the text as “wild beast”–the only time it is not translated simply as “beast” in Revelation; There is no grounds for the translation “wild beasts” in Revelation 6:8; Both famine and plague are here attributed to the methods in which these “beasts” kill, that is in addition to the sword

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 12 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: The step-by-step chronology in Matthew 24 of the signs leading up to the rapture and the wrath of God are the exact same signs we see in Revelation chapters 6-8, which are speaking of the 7 seals that need to be opened before the scroll (the wrath of God) can be read; Matthew 24:5; Revelation 6:1-2; The 1st seal corresponds to the first events in Matthew 24 – false christ’s; Matthew 24:6; The 2nd seal in Revelation 6:3-4 – wars; Matthew 24:7; The 3rd seal in Revelation 6:5-6 – famines

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 11 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: The word “parousia” (coming) is only used 24 times in the New Testament; The definition includes and encompasses all the things that Christ will do, starting with the rapture–His visible return, the raising of the dead, the last judgment, and the setting up of the kingdom after Armageddon; The rapture will be the first thing to happen at His coming (“parousia”), but there are not multiple “parousias”; There is only one word that is used to describe all of those tasks; In Greek literature, the word was used to describe a visit from a king to the area that the king ruled over; It was used to refer to his arrival, and the entirety of his visit… the “parousia” or “coming” of the king could last a long time; Matthew 13:30; Matthew 13:39-40; Matthew 24:4-8; He says that in the days leading up to His “parousia”, there are going to be signposts, but He warns us that these should not be confused with the End of the Age, or the Wrath of God; These signs are only the beginnings of sorrows–the word there is “birth pangs” in some translations

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 10 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: Compare Matthew 24 to Revelation 19 (the classic Armageddon passage) to see if Matthew 24:31 is speaking of Armageddon, like some pretribulationalists claim; Armageddon takes place at the end of the 7-year period, and just before the millennium; Revelation 19:11-18; Matthew 24:3

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 9 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: Matthew 24 is by far the most critical passage concerning the timing of the rapture–it connects the book of Daniel to the book of Revelation, and it fills in the gaps that will solve the rapture puzzle; When Christ tells his disciples in Matthew 24 of the events leading up to His coming, He ends that chronology with a description of the rapture; Matthew 24:30-31; 1 Thess 4:15-18; Charles Cooper’s book “God’s Elect and the Great Tribulation“; Matthew 24:29-31 has more in common with 1 Thess 4:13-18 than any other passage that is considered to be a rapture passage; The early church held the same view about Matthew 24; The King James 1611 edition seems to be Prewrath, in that it considers Matthew 24:31 comparable to 1 Thess. 4:16, as well as 1 Cor. 15:52 (both classic rapture passages)

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 8 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: Matthew 24:29-31; “tribulation” = “thlipsis” in the Greek; There’s so much confusion about this verse because we have defined this word “tribulation” incorrectly as the wrath of God; If we do that, then we have to pretend this verse isn’t talking about the rapture, even though it’s a mirror image of the famous verse in 1 Thess. 4; This is talking about a great affliction/persecution being cut short by the rapture; Mark 4:16-17; John 16:33; Acts 14:22; Romans 5:3; Romans 8:35; Romans 12:12; We are not going to go through the wrath of God, but to say that we aren’t going to go through “thlipsis” is quite simply unbiblical; There will be great tribulation–a great “thlipsis”–the persecution by the Antichrist that Christ describes, but we are promised that we will be raptured out from the midst of it, just before the Day of the Lord and the wrath of God against the wicked will begin; The wrath of God is poured out on the Day of the Lord; God alone, not the Antichrist, will be exalted on that day; The Day of the Lord is a long period of time–at least 5 months, but probably longer; The sun, moon, and stars sign will precede the Day of the Lord; The rapture and the Day of the Lord are back-to-back events; Imminence is not able to be found in Scripture or the early church

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 7 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: The doctrine of “imminence” held by pretribulationalists: the idea that no events, prophetic or otherwise, need to occur before the rapture happens (it could have occurred at any moment in the last 2,000 years); This is contrasted with the many events that must precede the Day of the Lord; If the rapture and the Day of the Lord are back-to-back events, the rapture could not have happened for the last 2,000 years; There is a time period in which the Lord’s return will be imminent, but only after certain events take place first… but after they do, it will be imminent; Church writings never taught that the rapture could come before the Antichrist until the 1800s

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Chris White from Nowhere to Run explains the Prewrath rapture perspective…

[Part 6 of a 27-Part series]

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Show: Nowhere to Run
Full Video: The Prewrath Rapture – The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24
Date: 4/2/11
Host: Chris White
Notes: Luke 17:22,26-30; Jesus says that His return will be like the days of Noah–God will deliver His faithful, and on the same day begin the destruction of the wicked; Genesis 7; It explicitly states that they entered the ark the exact same day that the rains began; Genesis 7:11-13; Luke 17:27 – “They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.“; They entered the ark (salvation of the righteous), floods came (destruction of the wicked), on the same day; Jesus mentions the same thing with Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah, in the same passage, just to make this point clear (Luke 17:28-29); Understanding the back-to-back nature of the rapture and the Day of the Lord will help to solve the rapture debate

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